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- First name(s) John
County Dunbartonshire
Last name Miller
Country Scotland
Marriage year 1814
Record set Scotland, Parish Marriages & Banns 1561-1893
Marriage date 1814
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Spouse's last name Ross
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland
Place Old Kilpatrick
- (Research):The Subject of this Search
John Miller or Millar, son of William and Elizabeth - 6633
MILLAR
JOHN
WILLIAM MILLAR/ELIZABETH GILMOUR FR651 (FR651)
M
07/06/1789
496
30 / 53
DUMBARTON
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Elimination of Possibilities
John Miller - Beckwith Twp, Lanark County
?W Conclusions
1.John's arrival in Canada in 1822 conflicts with the births of the children credited to John Miller and Mary Ross via Scottish Records.
2.This is not the John Miller who settled in Beckwith Township.
3.The dates for John's birth are listed as 63rd year, 1788 on the 1851 census and 70, suggested 1791, in 1861. It is probable that this John was born in Old or West Kilpatrick and that one of the individuals suggested below would be a better fit for the 'John' of this research.
4.This is not John, son of William Miller and Elizabeth Gilmour.
?W Research
Marriage
From FindmyPast
First name(s) John
Last name Miller
Marriage year 1814
Marriage date 1814
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Ross
Place Old Kilpatrick
County Dunbartonshire
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland, Parish Marriages & Banns 1561-1893
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland
First name(s) John
County Dunbartonshire
Last name Miller
Country Scotland
Marriage year 1814
Record set Scotland, Parish Marriages & Banns 1561-1893
Marriage date 1814
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Spouse's last name Ross
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland
Place Old Kilpatrick
From ScotlandsPeople
ROSS
MARY
JOHN MILLER/FR790 (FR790)
00/00/1814
501
30 / 181
OLD OR WEST KILPATRICK
"501" parish indicates that they were married in Mary's parish.
?W John and Mary Miller
1842 Census, Beckwith C10 L2 (note - near Scotch Corners, next to Duncan Campbell)
1851 Census, Beckwith, Lanark
Name John Miller
Gender Male
Age Next Birthday 63
Estimated Birth Year 1788
Birthplace Scotland
Census year 1851
Enumeration District Lanark County
Enumeration District Number 19 Sub-Enumeration District Beckwith
Sub-Enumeration District Number 175
Residence Place Lanark, Canada West (Ontario), Canada
Profession, Trade, or Occupation Farmer
Religion Free Church - Presbyterian
Household Members 2
Line Number 16
Page Stamped 77
Page Handwritten 8
Name Maray Miller
Gender Female
Age Next Birthday 59
Estimated Birth Year 1792
Birthplace Scotland
Census year 1851
Enumeration District Lanark County
Enumeration District Number 19
Sub-Enumeration District Beckwith
Sub-Enumeration District Number 175
Residence Place Lanark, Canada West (Ontario), Canada
Religion Free Church - Presbyterian
Household Members 2
Line Number 17
Page Stamped 77
Page Handwritten 8
1861 Census, Drummond, Lanark
John Miller, Gender Male,
Marital Status Married
Age 70
Birth Date 1791
Birth Place Scotland
Home in 1861 Drummond, Lanark, Canada West
District Number 13
Relation to Head Head
Religion Presbyterian
Page number 22
Household Members 1
Name Mary Miller
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Age 60
Birth Date 1801
Birth Place Scotland
Home in 1861
Drummond, Lanark, Canada West
District Number 13
Relation to Head Head
Religion Presbyterian
Page number 22
Household Members 1
?W Possible alternative 'John Millers'
MILLER
JOHN
ANDREW MILLER/AGNES MCALISTER FR482 (FR482)
M
28/06/1789
501
20 / 173
OLD OR WEST KILPATRICK
MILLER
JOHN
JOHN MILLER/ISABEL MERCROSS FR471 (FR471)
M
06/05/1787
501
20 / 162
OLD OR WEST KILPATRICK
?W Children
Children: All born in Old Kilpatrick, Dunbartonshire, Scotland and baptized in "501" parish.
Helen 1816
Agnes 1816
John 1818
Mary 1823
Janet Logan 1825
Isabel 1827
Walter 1829
?W Burial
FindaGrave #185795560 United Cemeteries (Maplewood-St. Fillians-Pine Grove), Beckwith Twp, Lanark County, Ontario, Canada
?W Immigration and Location
From Scotland to Canada
On Buckingham 1822
Land Grant issued Nov 10, 1822 for Beckwith Twp, Concession 10 Lot 2 SW
Patent Granted 1 Jul 1828, all SW ?a of Concession 10 Lot 2 SW.
On 1 Oct 1847 John and Mary granted land to the Bathurst District for school section #10.
20 June 1856, John and Mary were granted a mortgage for L200.0.0 by James Buchanan secured by the property. The property was transferred to Alexander Buchanan on 30 Oct 1858 with Jane Buchanan, wife of James Buchanan providing a Quit Claim. (A George Buchanan, from Comrie, received a military Grant on 24 Oct 1818 on Con 2 Lot 25E Beckwith.
On 29 Dec 1858, Colin King who was located on Concession 10 Lot 2 NE (Scotland, Buckingham, 1822) granted John Miller a mortgage for L500.0.0
On 4 May 1874 Colin and Ann King granted a portion of lot 2 SW1/2 to Trustees School Section #10.
On 19 Aug 1878 Colin King's Will grant the deed for a portion of the land to William Dowdall.
In 1907 land is passed By William and Margaret Dowdall to George Gardiner, John Poole and Edward Chamney, trustees of SS#10.
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Robert Mason Journals
In the journal, Robert Mason records interactions with John Miller, Bathurst, on 11 November 1834, 14 August 1835, 31 August 1835. See following notes for John Miller, Bathurst.
Bathurst, Concession 3 Lot 30 W, 100 acres. He fulfilled settlement requirements as military settler on 18 Apr 1819.
or
Bathurst Concession 1 Lot 11 NE, 100 acrs. He fulfilled settlement requirements 10 Jun 1819.
Determination of Which John Miller belongs with my Family
The John Millers of Lanark and Dalhousie township
Background
I have never been able to match the multiple 'John Miller(ar)s who emigrated to Lanark and Dalhousie township to John, son of William and Elizabeth and other family members who emigrated in 1820-21.
Did John arrive with the family? If so was he married? Did he arrive in 1820 and if so, John's wife and child(ren) accompany William and Elizabeth in 1821?
A review of on-line trees does not reveal any clues indicating others have not found an answer to these questions.
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Lanark and Dalhousie Townships
Conclusions:
1.John Miller with a wife and six children settled on Lanark Township C2 L22 and not Dalhousie C2 L22.
2.This is unlikely 'my' John Miller. If born in 1789, it would be unlikely for him to have married before 1809, and although possible, unlikely to have travelled with six children.
Lanark Township C2 L22
In 1820 John Miller receives this grant of 100 acres 24th July 1821.
Charles Rankin listed him as indebted to the British government in October 1829.
In 1834, John Miller is identified as the settler associated with this lot which is described as stony and swampy. It is noted that he has two sons in western Ontario.
In 1838 John Miller states that he was located many years ago on this lot and it was barren and request permission to relinquish and select 100 acres of land elsewhere.
John Miller does not appear on this land in 1842, nor could he be found on land in the townships in the study area (Lanark, Dalhousie, Bathurst, Burgess).
John Miller did not receive the patent to this land.
Dalhousie Township C2 L22
In the same document as noted for Dalhousie C2 L21*, John Miller is located on C2 L22, 100 acres on 24 July 1821. A second John Miller is noted as settling on C3 L21E on 25 July 1821.
In some documents, the settlement of Dalhousie C2 L22 has been associated with John Miller, North Albion Society, arrived on the ship Commerce in 1821. He was accompanied by a wife and six children, 2 males over twelve years, one female over twelve years, one male under twelve years, two females under twelve years. However, it is more likely those who associated John Miller with wife and six children located on Lanark Concession 2 Lot 22 are correct. William Graham, head of this group did not sail, and John Miller led this group which included three families. Two other members of group, Peter Baxter, located on Lanark C3 Lot 13, and John Parker located on Lanark C4 L4.
C. Bennett also makes note that 'J. Miller has two sons in Western Ontario' which also appears in the notes about Lanark C2 L22 above which suggests confusion as to the township associated with this land allocation.
John Miller did not receive the patent for this property.
Dalhousie Township C3 L21 E
John Miller arrived in 1821, a member of the Cambuslang Society, on the George Canning with three children, 2 sons under twelve, 1 daughter under twelve. (other Miller family members on this ship but in the Glasgow Canadian Society). The ship sailed on 14 Apr 1821 and arrived at Quebec on 2 Jun 1821. The settlers proceeded to Montreal aboard the Lady Sherbrooke.
John Miller settled on lot C3L21E, 100 acres, on 25 July 1821, the same day as his father and brothers. He can be matched to settler #495 in the Location Report of Settlers. These records indicate it was Concession 3 Lot 21 E not concession 2.
Baptismal and Marriage Records of Presbyterian Churches in Dalhousie and Lanark Townships, Lanark County, Ontario, J.R. Ernest Miller and Robert E. Sargeant. 1989.
John Miller's son, John Miller was baptised on 24 May 1833. In 1834 Col. Marshall notes that the lot is vacant and 'Miller gone thirteen years, no information'. The lot is hilly and rocky.
John Miller did not receive the patent for this property.
In previous research This was believed to be John Miller, born 1794, who settled near Morristown, St Lawrence County, New York. See John Miller #4061 who married Catherine Young. Current research suggest this is not John Miller 1789.
Dalhousie Township C2 L21
No record of this lot being assigned in 1821*. He may have moved to this lot after the settlement year but no records to support this was found.
Col Marshall associates John Miller with this land in 1834. He describes this lot as half the lot is middling, the remainder is indifferent, timber maple, elm, beech, hemlock, basswood on ridge, cedar & tamarack in swamp. Will Purchase ?2 per acre. Two miles to mill. Unimproved value ?0. 3.
John Miller did not obtain the patent to this property.
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MILLAR
JOHN
CATHARINE YOUNG/FR190 (FR190)
07/12/1816
627
10 / 308
CAMBUSLANG
I have tracked this family in great detail as it was suggested as a possiblity by Chares McPherson in 2014. I have recently been able to confirm that Catharine's father, John Young, settled in Ramsay township, Lanark County concession 1 Lot 15E. I have now determined that John Miller(ar) was the son of John Miller and Isobell Brown and was born 9 Nov 1794 in Old Monkland or Coatbridge, Lanarkshire, Scotland. The fact that Catherine's father was among the assisted settlers leads me to believe that John and Catherine were also. However, John may have been among those who initially sought employment on the canals, or was in search of better land because he appears on the US census for 1830.
Others - less likely
John, (age?) was possibly in Hennipen Co, Minnesota, in 23 Aug 1870, Minneapolis ward 3, pg. 40, in lumbering, with Mary, 50. Also listed on page are:
Sarah Gilmour, 29, 1841, England
Henry Gilmour, 14, 1856
Roxanna Miller, 50, 1820, Canada
Mary Connley Miller, 14, 1856, Minnesota
William Connley Miller, 11, 1859, Minnesota.
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Did John even come to Canada? Yes
Inspection Report of Bathurst District Clergy Reserves in 1828, Charles Rankin
also Canadian Land Patent (CLP) Inspection Report Bathurst District 1840
Searched for: Report nothing found at this time, need to revisit this info
Looking at possible Scotland marriages for John Miller
It is probable that John did not marry before his 20th birthday in 1809. I could not find a trace of children for most of these couples suggesting emigration or military service in Ireland. This has lead to the possibility that John, living in Beckwith township and later in Drummond township might be of interest.
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First name(s) John
Last name Miller
Marriage year 1814
Marriage date 1814
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Ross
Place Old Kilpatrick
County Dunbartonshire
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland, Parish Marriages & Banns 1561-1893
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland
Children:
Helen 1816
Agnes 1816
John 1818
Mary 1823
Janet Logan 1825
Isabel 1827
Walter 1829
Findagrave #185795560 United Cemeteries (Maplewood-St. Fillians-Pine Grove), Beckwith Twp, Lanark County, Ontario, Canada
First name(s) John
County Dunbartonshire
Last name Miller
Country Scotland
Marriage year 1814
Record set Scotland, Parish Marriages & Banns 1561-1893
Marriage date 1814
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Spouse's last name Ross
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland
Place Old Kilpatrick
Is this the John and Mary of Beckwith 1851 and Drummond 1861?
1842 Census, Beckwith C10 L2 (note - next to Duncan Campbell, see following)
2 people (John and Mary?)
1851 Census, Beckwith, Lanark
Name John Miller
Gender Male
Age Next Birthday 63
Estimated Birth Year 1788
Birthplace Scotland
Census year 1851
Enumeration District Lanark County
Enumeration District Number 19 Sub-Enumeration District Beckwith
Sub-Enumeration District Number 175
Residence Place Lanark, Canada West (Ontario), Canada
Profession, Trade, or Occupation Farmer
Religion Free Church - Presbyterian
Household Members 25
Line Number 16
Page Stamped 77
Page Handwritten 8
Name Maray Miller
Gender Female
Age Next Birthday 59
Estimated Birth Year 1792
Birthplace Scotland
Census year 1851
Enumeration District Lanark County
Enumeration District Number 19
Sub-Enumeration District Beckwith
Sub-Enumeration District Number 175
Residence Place Lanark, Canada West (Ontario), Canada
Religion Free Church - Presbyterian
Household Members 25
Line Number 17
Page Stamped 77
Page Handwritten 8
1861 Census, Drummond, Lanark
John Miller, Gender Male,
Marital Status Married
Age 70
Birth Date 1791
Birth Place Scotland
Home in 1861 Drummond, Lanark, Canada West
District Number 13
Relation to Head Head
Religion Presbyterian
Page number 22
Household Members 1
Name Mary Miller
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Age 60
Birth Date 1801
Birth Place Scotland
Home in 1861
Drummond, Lanark, Canada West
District Number 13
Relation to Head Head
Religion Presbyterian
Page number 22
Household Members 1
Additionally found in:
?W Reel 154A One - John Miller, emigrant, 1821
?W Early Settlers to Bathurst District, JRE Miller - 1819, Scotland, John Millar, Beckwith, Concession 10, Lot 2, wife, 2 sons +12, 1 son -12, 1 daughter +12, 2 daughters -12.
?W Scottish Settlers to Bathurst Area + supplement, Bathurst District - John Miller, Coldingham b. 1794, sailed 11 Jul 1815, Burgess concession 10 lot 4.
?W Also, James Miller 1813, m Mary Friend with 3 children. (Beckwith)
?W John Miller, concession 10 Lot 18 SW, crown to John Miller 1 Jul 1828.
?W John Miller, concession 10 Lot 10 NE, crown to Duncan Campbell on 9 June 1838. (Beckwith Concession 10 Lot 1, all 200 acres to Duncan Campbell, maybe a son of John on Concession 10 Lot 2).
?W Also, George Miller, concession 1 Lot 22, Drummond township.
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First name(s) John
Last name Miller
Banns year 1810
Marriage year 1810
Residence Glenhead
Spouse's first name Ann
Spouse's last name Allan
Spouse's residence Duntocher
Place Old Kilpatrick
County Dunbartonshire
Country Scotland
Archive reference OPR 501/3
Item 3
Year range 1802-1819
Page -
Record set Scotland, Parish Marriages & Banns 1561-1893
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland
Children of one of the "Ann"s:
John Miller 53
Anna Miller 50
Catherine Miller 24
John Miller 22
Ann Miller 17
Andrew Miller 15
Mary Miller 11
Scotland 1841 Census, Occupation, Cross Street Provision Merchant, Old Kirkpatrick, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
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First name(s) John
Last name Miller
Marriage year 1810
Marriage date 24 Aug 1810
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Gilfillan
Place Old Kilpatrick
County Dunbartonshire
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland, Parish Marriages & Banns 1561-1893
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland
Children of one of the "Ann"s:
Catherine 1817
John 1819
Ann 1824
Andrew 1826
Mary 1830
Mary 1833
Janet 1833
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First name(s) John
Last name Miller
Banns year 1815
Banns date 03 Jun 1815
Marriage year 1815
Occupation Blacksmith
Residence Port Glasgow
Spouse's first name Ann
Spouse's last name Wilson
Place Port Glasgow
County Renfrewshire
Country Scotland
Archive reference OPR 574/7
Item 2
Year range 1649-1819
Page 142
Record set Scotland, Parish Marriages & Banns 1561-1893
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland
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Other Marriages briefly looked at:
MILLAR
JOHN
JEAN AUCHINVOLLE/
19/02/1815
494
20 / 319
CARDROSS
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MILLAR
JOHN
JEAN MEIKLEQUHAM/FR697 (FR697)
10/05/1826
494
30 / 253
CARDROSS
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First name(s) John
Last name Miller
Banns year 1825
Banns date 08 Jul 1825
Marriage year 1825
Residence Benhill
Spouse's first name Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Macindoe
Spouse's residence Benhill
Place Bonhill
County Dunbartonshire
Country Scotland
Archive reference OPR 493/3
Item 3
Year range 1820-1854
Page 114
Record set Scotland, Parish Marriages & Banns 1561-1893
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland
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Other Research
Occupation, Labourer, 11 May 1811, Scotland
Military, Private, De Watteville's Foot, Release, bet 1813-1816, Canada
De Watteville's Regiment was a Swiss regiment founded by Louis de Watteville and recruited from regiments that served between 1799 and 1801 in the Austrian army but in British pay. The troops then signed on as mercenaries, to be paid by the British. They fought in the Napoleonic Wars (1803-1815), mainly around the Mediterranean, and were based in Malta and then in Egypt from 1801 to 1803, fighting in Sicily and Naples. The regiment fought and won the Battle of Maida, in Italy in July 1806. From 1811 to 1813 the unit served under Wellington in the Peninsular War in Spain, and defending Cadiz in the Siege of C?adiz. The regiment sailed to Canada in 1813 to fight in the War of 1812. The unit was retired at the end of the war and soldiers were given tracts of land in Canada.
wikipedia
References
Biography of Louis de Watteville at the Dictionary of Canadian Biography Online
Chartrand, Ren?e (2000). ?Emigr?e and Foreign Troops in British Service (2) 1803-15. London: Osprey. p. 42. ISBN 978-1-85532-859-4.
Barthorp, Michael (1992). Napoleon's Egyptian Campaigns, 1798-1801. London: Osprey. p. 38. ISBN 978-0-85045-126-9.
Originally manned by Swiss mercenaries who served first in the Dutch army and then the Austrian army, the unit became a British line regiment when reorganized on Malta. By the time they reached Canada the ranks had been filled with German, Hungarian and Italian soldiers who had deserted or been taken prisoner from Napoleon's conscript army. Christine Spencer
Land Grant, Burgess, Concession 10 Lot 4Wk granted under authority of the Commander of the Forces, 17 Apr 1816, Burgess North Twp, Lanark County, Ontario, Canada. This was also recorded in the List of Settlers, Bathurst District and Burgess, Concession 10 Lot 4 W, 100 acres. Military grant. He fulfilled settlement requirements as emigrant on 17 April 1819.
Bathurst, Concession 3 Lot 30 W, 100 acres. He fulfilled settlement requirements as military settler on 18 Apr 1819.
Bathurst, Concession 1 Lot 11 NE, 100 acres. He fulfillment of settlement duties on 10 Jun 1819.
Burgess, Concession 8 Lot 12 W, 100 acres. He fulfilled settlement requirements on 22 June 1819.
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Research beginning 8 Dec 2003
Land holdings and/or location of the children of William Millar and Elizabeth Gilmour
Robert, Millar 1784
William or William John Millar, 1786-1860
John Millar, 1789
Jean Millar, 1791-1846
James Millar, 1794-1879
Peter Miller, 1796
Andrew Millar, 1799-1869
Janet Millar, 1801-1884
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