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751 (Research):https://www.ancestry.ca/search/collections/12050/

Louisa's birth place is reported as the USA (1861, 1871,  1891), Canada (1851), and Scotland (1901) in various census returns. It appears that her father was a military settler so any are possible but it was most likely Canada or the USA.

Bill McCullough notes
William Cowie on the Scotch Line was her great grandfather.
Janet and Robert Cowie came to Perth in the 1830's via the USA.
Robert Cowie was married to Henrietta Adams. Henrietta's brother John Adams farmed and taught music. John Adams and his wife (?) adopted his wife's niece, Louise McKay who later married Ralph Dodds. Their granddaughter, a Mrs. Ferrier lives across the road from the John Adams farm.
Family History Services, William J. Cowie, PHD, Manager (barber dodds marilyns.ftw)

In the 1851 Census of Burgess North,
pg 7 families of
John Holliday, School Teacher
James Holliday, Farmer
Alex McFarlane, Farmer
John Walker, Carpenter
William McGilvary, Farmer
Laughlin mcGilvary, Farmer
Thomas Beaty (z?), labourer with Camerons, McDonald and others
pg 9
George Holliday
John Bone, Teamster
Samuel Curley, labourer
Thomas Dobie, farmer
Adam Golightly, mill wright
Charles Miller, farmer
pg 11
Hellen Barber
John Barber
Robert Cowie, 1805, stone mason, Scotland, Presbyterian
Jane Cowrie, 1815, USA
Henrietta, 1835
John, 1837
Agnes, 1838
William, 1840
Francis, 1843
Lilly, 1845
Margaret, 1847
Robert, 1848
James 1849
Jane 1850
next door are Ralph Dodds, 25, 1827, England and Louisa Dodds, 21, 1831 Upper Canada. 
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752 (Research):https://www.murrayscheese.com/colin-ming-scholarship-program

Colin Ming was a cherished member of the Murray's Cheese family who joined the company in 2015 and served as Regional Team Lead for our National team in the Kroger enterprise. He sadly passed away in June 2019. Colin made a significant impact at Murray's and Kroger in the four years he spent with our team, and in the broader cheese and beverage communities before that. Colin was known for his insatiable passion for food, his love of teaching and for his team, and above all, for his compassion and authenticity.

Colin was in the process of preparing to take his CCP exam this past summer when he unexpectedly passed. Although he was not able to complete his studies, Murray's Cheese wants to make sure that other mongers who embody the same traits of inspirational leadership, kindness, warmth and professional poise have the opportunity to do so. The Colin Ming CCP Scholarship will both memorialize Colin's impact on our industry as well as continue his mission to share his passion for cheese with other mongers.

https://guyaneseonline.net/2021/04/13/opinion-colin-ming-a-shining-light-by-dave-martins/

A SHINING LIFE ?  By Dave Martins

Two days ago, out of the blue, I had an awful experience with the sudden death of a friend here, Colin Ming, in a traffic accident (he was on a motorbike) that just shattered me.  Why I'm not really sure. We were not boyhood companions, but perhaps because our friendship goes back to those times, many years ago, when the Tradewinds trips to Guyana began, and my career as a musician was building, and Colin's love for the songs was a kind of glue, always there between us as is our love for Guyana.          

Very early I saw he was a rock, this guy, with various issues in Guyana.  He was very involved in various sports matters, a very principled man, and it was a joy to be around him.  Marvellous sense of humour, always in play, and his laugh was like bells ringing; it just took him over completely, no matter what the occasion, where he was, who was listening?Colin's laugh would consume him, total release, it would transform his face, affecting people nearby, causing stares, he didn't seem to notice the reaction, and his ethics, his veracity, those things were always in play, day or night, big or small.

His death truly rocked me.  Partly because it was so sudden and so unswerving.  I heard he was in a traffic accident and in hospital, and almost in the same breath, I heard he had been severely injured, and that he had died.  It tore me up.  Colin, for me, was one of those totally good people, no blemishes I knew of, always the same, always supporting and amiable and solid. A friend with no drama, no issues, everything easy. I felt his loss as if he had been my son.

I don't really know why. We were not daily companions, by any means, but I felt this weight of grief; it brought me to tears.  It's two days now and I'm still stunned and not sure as to why it did me in so.  Perhaps the totally pointless manner of his going, so much so I know I would not be able to go to his funeral; a deep, deep sadness and so meaningless.    It came like a wave, unravelled me, and the crazy suddeness of it, and the quality this man had, naturally so, no fanfare, no splashy behaviour, just a class individual, and to be taken like that; in my head, it felt like some kind of madness.

This, of course, is my panorama which is limited.  I didn't have the day-to-day experiences in his family circle and people he interacted with.  I know virtually nothing about his early experiences and the things and people who shaped him, like his brother Stanley, but from my limited lens I realized early on that this was a special man, integrity was a big issue with him, and that drew me, as it did others..  Each of us comes to know people with a unique dedication to a discipline or a cause; it is almost like an aura that surrounds them as they go through their days.  It's not something you can touch or photograph, but it is nonetheless as real and as vivid as if it were.  And indeed, it is real.  So it was, with Colin Ming.

It is human nature to look for explanations for pivotal things, to help us cope with the trauma of a loss, and so I look at this episode, and try to make sense of it while fully knowing the futility of such a search.  There really is no answer; the vicissitudes of life, some glorious, some rending, are playing out, coming at us again and again, leaving us searching for answers, seeking out comfort, leaving us with more questions than answers, but still not leaving us alone.

As I write this, the trauma is already happening, obviously in his family, in that tight inner circle, and in the people, many of them in the sports field, with whom he interacted and with the many who were recipients of his giving nature.

I can't speak for others, but purely from my own lens, there remains the unrelenting "why" of these matters which are so overwhelming that our minds naturally remain engaged on the issue.  And I know that I am not alone here.  Clearly, many others know the creation called Colin Ming, many even better than I knew him, and for them, too, his sudden demise leaves them similarly groping for answers, for clarity. A man apart, this one. Truly, a shining life.
maybe
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Colin Ming

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FROM Guyana Chronicle:- April 9, 2021 ?  re Colin Ming

Over the last week, tributes poured in from sport bodies across the country. 'One of his overriding passions was the promotion of sports to youths, especially those who were in need, and it was in that spirit he donated hundreds of golf clubs to the NexGen Golf Academy for the school programme, a release said.

Ming was a former secretary of the Guyana Squash Association (GSA) and also president of the Caribbean Area Squash Association (CASA). 'He spent endless hours over the years at the Georgetown Club on the squash courts working on the physical as well as the mental skills of his students and on fine-tuning their games. They all reaped the success of his exploits.' a GSA release said. Ming was also a vice-president of the Athletics Association of Guyana (AAG). 
Ming, Colin (I57176)
 
753 (Research):https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=342167.18

"The Hills were among the earliest of the linen merchants to establish a mass bleaching plant."  Hillmount, a fine three-storey Georgian mill-owner's house, was built by one of this family perhaps about 1720, probably around 1760, certainly before 1778.  Shown to be the seat of Mr John Hill in Lendrick's map of 1780, and Williamson's revision of 1808.  It seems that the Hills prospered during the Napoleonic wars, adding the handsome single-storey bow-fronted bays at either side, and excavating the lake in front of the house when "the material taken out was distributed in such a way as to suggest to a stranger the remains of extensive earthworks".  But by 1825 Mr Hill had failed; he was imprisoned for debt in Carrickfergus Gaol, and it was there that the purchase of the house, bleach-green and mill was negotiated by Dr William Young, one of the ubiquitous Youngs of Ballymena.

n 1768 land was advertised for sale, apparently as being in the estate of Rolleston Humphrey Esq (Belfast Newsletter, 5th Feb 1768).  It included:

"?that Parcel of Ground called Barley-Hill, with several Houses, Tenements and Gardens, now in the Possession of James Cobham, Thomas and James Magill, James Penny, Matthew Barry and William Barkley?"

However, this was countered on the 12th February:

WHEREAS an Advertisement has been inserted in the Belfast News-Paper, that some Lands and Tenements near the Town of Carrickfergus, in the Possession of James Magill, Thomas Magill, James Cobham, Matthew Barry, and others, called the Estate of Rolleston Humphry, Esq.; are to be sold.  This is therefore to give Notice, that Michael Savage, by his last Will and Testament, bearing Date the 17th Day of December, 1678, did devised the said Lands and Tenements to Thomas Orpin, and Sarah his Wife, their Heirs, or either of them, for ever: That the said Thomas Orpin, by his last Will and Testament, bearing Date the 21st Day of August, 1719, bequeathed the Tenements adjoining the Barley Hill to Mary Barry, otherwise Wissencroft; Margaret (F/P)eny, otherwise Wissencroft, and Others, who are now in the actual Possession of said Tenement, and have been for these 34 Years past: That the said Mary and Margaret, as also Ann Laverty, otherwise Wissencroft, and Martha Peny, otherwise Wissencroft, the Grand Children of said Thomas Orpin, are the lawful Heirs of said Lands and Tenements: That neither the aforesaid Rolleston Humphry, nor any other Person whatsoever has an Right or Title to sell said Lands of Tenements; whereof every one designed to purchase said Lands or Tenements, or any Part thereof, are desired to take Notice.
Dated at Carrickfergus, this 10th Day of Feb. 1768.

I'm guessing the Matthew Barry mentioned was married to Mary Barry, otherwise Wissencroft.  So potentially it could have been:

Matthew BARRY married Mary WISSENCROFT, granddaughter of Thomas ORPIN?
- Matthew BARRY married Ann REILEY, daughter of Garret REILEY

Here's a connection between my last post and the Hills of Hillsmount.  Belfast Newsletter, 1st March 1771:

To be set and entered upon immediately, in the Liberties of Carrickfergus, one Farm of Land called Carnamrock, on which the late Mr. Matthew Barry lived.  Said Farm contains 36 Acres, Plantation Measure, and is divided into proper Parks, with Quickset Hedges, and is very convenient to Lime.  Proposals to be received for the above Farm by John Hill of Hillsmount, near Ballymena.  No Preference to be given to any one.  Also four small Farms to be let in Drumra by said John Hill.  The above Advertisement to be continued only four Times.  Dates this 23d Day of Feb. 1771.

So one Matthew Barry dead by 1771, another still alive in 1773 ?   Belfast Newsletter 28th May ?   1st June 1773:

To be set from the first Day of November next, for such Term as may be agreed upon, a Farm of Land, situate in the North-East Division of the Liberties of Carrickfergus, known by the Name of Bashford's Land, containing about 37 Acres, all Arable and Meadow.  Proposals in Writing will be received by James Bashford, at his House in Belfast; and the Lands will be shewn by Matthew Barry who lives on and takes Care of said Farm.  Dated May 31, 1773.  This to be continued four Times.

Belfast Newsletter, 24th Apr 1772:

Dropt on the Road betwixt Ballymena and Portglenone, on Saturday last, a Silver Watch, Maker, William Birnie, Dublin, No. 46; on the outer Case is engraved a Coat of Arms; the Crest a Hand and broken Spear; Dial-plate enamelled, Steel Chain, two Seals; on one of them an H and E in Cypher on one Side, on the other a Hawk; on the other Seal, which is Triangular, is the same Arms in different Sides, &c.  Whoever returns said Watch, &c. to Mr. John Hill at Hillsmount, near Cullybackey, Mr. Hugh Edmonston, Merchant in Ballymena, Mr. Andrew Crawford, Merchant in Portglenone, or the Printers hereof, shall have a Guinea Reward.  Dated 21st April, 1772.

Belfast Newsletter, 3rd-7th November 1775:

WHEREAS on Sunday Night last, being the 29th of October, the Bleach-yard of John and Charles Hill of Hillsmount, near Ballymena, in the County of Antrim, was audaciously entered into by some Villains unknown, who feloniously lifted and carried off said Bleach-yard nin Piexces of 3-4th and 8-8th wide Linen, the Property of John, Charles, and James Hill?

I wonder what relationship John, Charles and James were to each other.

Note on the Orpins, again from The History of Carrickfergus:

"John Orpin was a pewterer and plumber and of mean descent; the way he came to improve his fortune was by being one of the Executors of the Lady Langford, by which he got considerable, but not justly."  He died 1661, leaving his possessions here to his son Thomas, a glazier, who died 1719, bequeathing his property to his eldest son John, and his daughter Margaret Wisencraft, and offspring.  ?   Gill's MSS. MS.

Belfast Newsletter, 6th Dec 1768:
On Tuesday last was married, Mr. John Hill of Drumra in the County of Antrim, Linen Draper, to Miss Berry of Carrickfergus, an agreeable young lady, with a Fortune of 1500l.

1776 ?   Charles Hill, Drumra ?   listed in the Deputy Court Cheque Book, election for Antrim
1776 ?   James Hill, Drumra ?   listed in the Deputy Court Cheque Book, election for Antrim
1778 ?   a T. Hill, Esq., of Drumra raised a corps called the Portglenone Volunteers

I think Drumra may be Drumraw, a townland roughly halfway between Portglenone and Cullybackey.

Now that I've put John Hill and Anne Barry's marriage into my tree it has brought up another tree on Ancestry.  It has John Hill's parents as the Rev. J. Hill and Ann Moore.  It has Anne Barry's parents as Matthew Barry and Ann Coleman.  I don't know what the sources are.

Before seeing the above tree I remember making a mental note about a Rev. J Hill who I thought might be connected to John Hill of Hillmount.  I can't remember where I saw it though!

Hillmount House, Cullybackey

I've just realised this was one of my favourite houses featured in Brett's Buildings of County Antrim.  He says:

"The Hills were among the earliest of the linen merchants to establish a mass bleaching plant."  Hillmount, a fine three-storey Georgian mill-owner's house, was built by one of this family perhaps about 1720, probably around 1760, certainly before 1778.  Shown to be the seat of Mr John Hill in Lendrick's map of 1780, and Williamson's revision of 1808.  It seems that the Hills prospered during the Napoleonic wars, adding the handsome single-storey bow-fronted bays at either side, and excavating the lake in front of the house when "the material taken out was distributed in such a way as to suggest to a stranger the remains of extensive earthworks".  But by 1825 Mr Hill had failed; he was imprisoned for debt in Carrickfergus Gaol, and it was there that the purchase of the house, bleach-green and mill was negotiated by Dr William Young, one of the ubiquitous Youngs of Ballymena.

I'm still convinced John Hill of Hillmount was dead by 1788, so if there was still a John Hill there in 1808 I think it was someone else.

In 1827 the "House and Lands of Drumra, situated on the main road communicating between the considerable Market Towns of Ballymena and Portglenone" was to let, with applications to be made to Mr. Thomas Hill, Hillmount, Ballymena.

In 1829 there are ads for the "Bleach Mills, House, & Lands of Hillmount, situated about 3 miles from Ballymena" which were to be sold by auction in September.  The ad also mentions the lands and mansion house of Drumra, also for sale.  "Further particulars may be known by applying to Thomas Hill, Hillmount, Ballymena."

The adds stop in September 1829, so presumably the properties were sold.  However, new ads reappear in 1832 for an auction in July that year, now just for the Hillmount properties (not Drumra) ?   "for particulars, apply to Alex. & John Montgomery, Belfast".

This time it looks like there was no sale, because the ads continue, with a new auction date set for September 21st, then 29th October and finally the 14th December at which point they stop again.

The Warder and Dublin Weekly Mail, 8th May 1833, lists Thomas Hill, late of Hillmount, county Antrim, bleacher as an insolvent debtor, his case to be heard on the 23rd May.

In May 1833: "HILLMOUNT BLEACH GREEN: the interest in the Lease to be Sold" with proposals to be received by "Mr. B. Alex. Cannon, No. 4, D'Olier-Street, Dublin; or John Gower, Esq., Roundwood-park, Newtown, Mount-Kennedy."

April 1834: "To be sold or let" ? "Proposals will be received ? by John Gower [as above] ? Thomas Reilly, at Hillmount, will show the Premises."

Belfast Commercial Chronicle, 11 May 1836:
Of typhus fever, at Hillmount, near Ballymena, on the 7th inst. Margaret, wife of Robert Young, Esq. and daughter of Wm. Gihon, of Hillhead, Esq.

After this, as suggested by Brett, the Youngs continue at Hillmount for a few decades.  (Incidentally, Robert Young was my 1st cousin 5 times removed.)


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Hillmount House, Larne

Not to be outdone by the Hills of Ballymena, the Hills of Larne also appear to have had a "Hillmount House".

This ad is from the Belfast Commercial Chronicle, 2nd Nov 1822:

TO BE LET.  For any Term no exceeding Twenty-One Years.  Hillmount House and Gardens, with or without the Farm attached thereto.  The House and Offices are in complete condition for the reception of a genteel Family ?   situate on the Sea Shore, in a beautiful Bay, on the Road from Larne to Glenarm, within 1 ?a miles of the former.  The beauty of the situation, fine air, and Sea-bathing, cannot be exceeded.  Apply (if by Letter, post-paid) to the Proprietor, GEORGE HILL, Larne, Oct. 23, 1822.

Is this the George Hill who married Mary Hill of Hillmount, Cullybackey?

This could be his death, Limerick Evening Post, 1st Jul 1828:
At Larne, George Hill, Esq.

That's not very informative, but a copy of his will survives at PRONI.

The Derry Journal, 22nd Sep 1835, contains a report that on one night in the neighbourhood of Larne, three valuable horses were stolen:

?one belonging to Mr Robert Shaw, of Cairncastle, another to Mr Joseph Barr, of Ballycraigey, and the last to Mr William Kirk Martin, Hillmount.  It would appear that the fellow who stole them had galloped them the whole way to the Waterside ?   neither of them being saddled; and, having rested them there for a short time, he put them on board one of the steamers of this port, which was on the eve of her departure for Liverpool.  Mr Martin traced the thief to Derry; and having taken a passage in the first steamer to Liverpool, he there discovered two of the stolen horses in the livery stables of a Mr Lucas, who had purchased them from a person who represented himself to be their owner, and who had gone off with the remaining horse to a fair in the country.  Mr Martin got the two horses delivered up to him; and Mr Lucas, we understand, set out in pursuit of the thief.

The Northern Whig, 1st Feb 1842, a "Mr. Richard Hill, Hillmount" is mentioned in a report on a ploughing match of the "County of the Town of Carrickfergus and Kilroot Agricultural Society".


By the time of the c1860 Valuation Book, Hillmount House in Drains Bay is still shown as belonging to the representatives of George Hill.  This continues all the way through till 1928/9 ?   100 years after George Hill's death!?

The tenants for most of that time by the way were McNeils ?   presumably descendants of George Hill mentioned in the first post (one of George Hill's daughters married a McNeil).

p.s. This house was for sale recently and can be viewed online if you fancy a nosy.  Apparently built in the early 19th century, which fits with George Hill's 1822 ad.

http://c1415082.r82.cf3.rackcdn.com/ECSECS35056/ECSECS35056-1.pdf

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This probably has appeared on this forum before, but I will put it here as well as it seems that there is more interest now on the Hill family of Hillmount and the Matin family.  I am interested if anyone has any additional information on Maria Martin, dau of John Martin of Dublin, who married Alexander Macaulay (See below). Most likely connected somehow with William Kirk Martin's family.

1. Rev. John Hill of Cashel.

2. Son m.

3. Arthur Hill

3. Sarah Hill m. Mr Anderson

4. Jane Anderson

3. George Hill m. 1797 his cousin, Mary Hill of Hillmount and Ballymena, youngest dau of John Hill and Anne Barry

4. Jane Hill m. Capt. George Macaulay, son of Alexander Macaulay, High Sheriff of Co. Antrim and the Hon. Julia Henrietta Acheson, dau of 1st Lord Gosford.

5. Alexander Macaulay (1819-1849) m. Maria Martin, dau of John Martin of Air Hill, Co. Dublin.

6. Alexander Macaulay(1849-1880) m. Emily Constance Rotheram, dau of George A. Rotheram, High Sheriff of Co. Meath

5. Mary Macaulay m. William Harper Lepper, son of Charles Lepper of Laurel Lodge, Belfast and Anne Jane Harper.

6. Mary Hill Lepper m. 1866 Richard Stewart Dobbs, son of Maj. Gen. Richard Stewart Dobbs and Jane Cathcart, dau of Robert Cathcart.

6. Anne Jane Lepper m. 1863 William Storrs Fry (1837-1898) of East Ham, son of Wm. Storrs Frly and Juliana Pelly, dau of John Henry Pelly.

7. Mary Juliana Fry, b. 1865

7. Ann Susan Fry, b. 1868

7. Elizabeth Fry, (1871-1881)

7. Arthur Pelly Fry (1873-1923)

7. Lewis A. Fry, b. 1874

7. Ethel O. Fry, b. 1875

7. Charles M. Fry, b. 1877

7. Raymond F.(T?) Fry (1880-1960) m. 1913 Amy Nevill Banks, dau of Edward Nevill Banks of Belfast.

7. William Storrs Fry (1866-1937)

7. Maud Louisa Fry, b. 1870; m. 1897 Elliott McNeill, son of John McNeill of Hillmount and Dublin and Mary Jane Hodges.

8. Douglas S. E. McNeill, b. 1898

8. Sybil Ethel McNeill, b. 1901

8. John Macaulay McNeill, b. 1903; m. 1929 Thirza Norine Crowe, dau of Dr. George Crowe of Didsbury, Manchester.

6. Ehen Lepper m. 1874 Charles Leech of Cloonconra, son of Charles Leech, Q.C. and Anna Maria Chambre, dau of Hunt Walsh Chambre.

5. Harriet Macaulay (1822-1907) m. Rev. Robert Posnett, son of Hutcheson Posnett, J.P. of Belfast, newspaper owner.

5. Georgina Macaulay m. Henry FitzGibbon (1824-1909), Judge, Recorder of Belfast, cousin of Rt. Hon. Gerald FitzGibbon, Lord Justice of Appeals for Ire..

6. Capt. Henry Macaulay FitzGibbon (1855-1942), Greystones, Co. Wicklow, barrister; m. Helen Rebecca Barton, dau of Dr. John Kellock Barton and Mary Apjohn, dau of Professor James Apjohn of TCD.

7. Lt. Richard Apjohn FitzGibbon (1890-1915)

7. Georgina Rose FitzGibbon, b. 1886; m. 1917 Surgeon Frederick Cecil Wright, R.N., son of Dr. F. W. Wright of Derby.

5. Anne Jane Macaulay m. George Hill Emerson, her cousin, son of Arbuthnot Emerson and Mary Hill, and nephew of Sir James Emerson-Tennent.

4. Ann Hill m. 1822 William Walsh McNeill, solicitor, son of John McNeill, solicitor, and Catherine Walsh. He d. 1845.

5. George Hill McNeill, solicitor, b. 1824; m. 1855 Mary Hudson McNeill, dau of John McNeill, solicitor, of Glenone, Co. Londonderry.

5. Catherine McNeill, b. 1827 m. 1 1852 J. McNeill; m. 2 Rev. John Moore.

5. Mary McNeill, b. 1829

5. John McNeill, b. 1830; m. Mary Jane Hodges

6. George Hill McNeill, b. 1868

6. Elliott McNeill, solicitor, b. 1870; m. 1897 Maud Louisa Fry (see above).

5. Ann McNeill, b. 1833

5. William Walsh McNeill, b. 1835; m. Martha Neill

6. Jane McNeill, b. 1871

6. George Hill McNeill, b. 1873

6. Mary Georgina McNeill

5. Eliza Emerson McNeill, b. 1837

5. Jane Hill McNeill, b. 1838

5. Harriet Macaulay McNeill, b. 1844

4. Mary Hill m. 1827 Arbuthnot Emerson, son of William Emerson and Sarah Arbuthnot

5. George Hill Emerson, b. 1828 m. Anne Jane Macaulay, see above

2. John Hill, linen merchant; m. Anne Barry, son Mr Barry and Anne Coleman, dau of Dr John Coleman of Carrickfergus.

3. Mary Hill, youngest dau, m. George Hill, her cousin, as mentioned above.

3. Elizabeth Hill, eldest dau, m. 1789 William Adams, merchant, of Portglenone.

4. Capt. Robert Adams, emigrated to Australia; m. 1844 Jane Anderson (Any relation to the previously mentioned Andersons??)

Can I be really annoying and ask what the sources are for some of this ?   particularly anything that might prove George and Mary Hill were cousins?  And that John of Hillmount was the son of the Rev John Hill?

What's your opinion on the lifespan of John Hill of Hillmount?  There's a burial of a John Hill in 1784 aged 64 at Portglenone Church of Ireland ?   do you think that's him?

Sure, no problem.  A lot of that information came from the following book:  On the Shining Bann: records of an Ulster Manor by R. M. Sibbett.  Like yourself, I have been looking at this family mostly from a particular angle.  In my case, a lot of my time has been spent researching the Macaulay family of Cushendall.  One of the weaknesses with my research has concerned the Martin family.  Quite a few years back I approached the FitzGibbon family hoping that they could help.  Unfortunately, most of the information they had concerend only their male line and paid little attention to the distaff side of their family.  As such, I wish to thank you for refiring my interest in Maria Martin, wife of Alexander Macaulay.

We need confirmation that:

1) Margaret died early, probably following a childbirth.

2) She had a son William HILL b. ~ 1844 (in Whiteabbey?).

Such an individual is recorded in the 1851 census of St. Peter Port on Guernsey, aged 7, staying c/o his "aunt" Margaret DIGMAN (nee WILLIAMSON), along with his uncle William WHITTLEY.
[Assuming he is who we think he is, then she was actually his great aunt.]

Aged 7 seemed a tad young for such an adventure, but then if he had lost his mother ...
[Also, Margaret DIGMAN desperately needed help running her spirit-grocer's shop / boarding house.
She had lost all her family during the cholera outbreak in 1832.]


3) This WH was identical with the William John HILL who married Ellenor Jane Warden STEVENSON on 02-MAR-1864 at Newtownards.
[Fathers George HILL and Henry STEVENSON.]

Ensuing family was (at least):

William Digman HILL b. 23-DEC-1864 at Donaghadee
Mary Stevenson HILL b. 05-JUN-1866 at Donaghadee
Margaret HILL b. 18-FEB-1868 at Donaghadee.
Lizzie Beatrice HILL b. 30-APR-1871 at Antrim
George Frederick HILL b. 29-MAR-1873 at Belfast 3
Frederick HILL b. 18-MAR-1879 at Belfast

To date we only knew of the first one.
He had been named Henry Stevenson HILL at birth, but had his name changed when baptised.
Your post inspired me to return to FamilySearch.org tonight, finding the others.  Thanks!

William WHITTLEY had brought what remained of his family (after further sad losses) back to Belfast in 1862.
Presumably, his nephew William HILL (aged 17/18) returned with him.


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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena

Going by the information you've provided Pablo, I'm guessing you already know this, but I noticed that the Hill/Macauley and McNeill family can also be found on the 1851 census in Larne:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1851/Antrim/Upper_Glenarm/Larne/Larne/85/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1851/Antrim/Upper_Glenarm/Larne/Larne/87/


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I've also now got my hands on a copy of The Shining Bann by R. M. Sibbett (1928).  Here's the extract about the Hill family:

   The Rev. John Hill, Presbyterian minister, was the first of his name to reside in the manor of Cashel.  His son, John Hill, linen merchant, founded the Hillmount Bleachworks at Cullybackey, now among the largest and best-equipped of their kind in the world.
   Elizabeth, eldest daughter of John Hill, of Hillmount, married William Adams, of Portglenone, in 1789.  The two youngest members of the large family by this union ?   a son and a daughter ?   went to Australia.  There the former, Robert, became a successful sheep farmer, and the latter wed another colonist following the same occupation.  Harry Adams the last-born son of Robert Adams, acquired considerable fame as a skilful surgeon.  He died later near Wellington, New Zealand.  Captain Adams, the only son of Harry Adams, was killed in the Great War.  His sister, Lady Glenny Wilson, well known in the literary worlds, resides in New Zealand.
   George Hill Adams, M.D., Edinburgh, was another son of William Adams.  Practising for some years in Australia, he returned to London, and died at Notting Hill, unmarried.  Elizabeth, the eldest daughter of the worthy couple indicated, married the Rev. W. C. Wray, of Buckna, County Antrim.  One of the sons born of this union, Dr. Charles Wray, was appointed health officer of Brisbane.  He died there in 1902, of Bubonic plague, caught in the discharge of his duty.
   Ann Adams, the second daughter of William Adams, wed the Rev. Clarke Huston, D.D., Macosquin.  William, his fourth son, espoused Sarah Adair, daughter of Henry Newton Raphael of Galgorm.  Their son, George Hill Adams, was identified for some time with the York Street Flax Spinning Company, Ltd., Belfast.  Eventually he went to Australia, and still resides there, at Melbourne.
   Three of his sons served in the Great War - Captain George Hill Adams, M.C., Australian Artillery; Commander Bryan Fullerton Adams, R.N., D.S.O ; and Wm, Ronald Adams, Australian Field Ambulance.
   The last named is now a barrister in Melboune, holding a Government appointment.  His brother Bryan, by heroism, covered himself with glory.  The Naval Gazette, published some time after the Zeebrudde raid stated: "Lieut.-Commander Bryan F Adams led the naval storming party in the most gallant manner.  He was the first to land on the Mole.  Followed by his men, he bombed the German lookout, making it useless to them, etc., etc."
   Specially promoted Commander for his services, and given charge of his own ship, Bryan had conferred upon him the D.S.O. as an additional honour.  He was lately appointed to the Queen Elizabeth, stationed at Malta, where Sir George Keyes, K.C.B., flies his flag.
   The eldest sister of George Hill Adams wed the Rev. S. Thomson, B.A.  Another became the wife of James Gardiner, a Belfast merchant.  Of this marriage there were two sons, James, who succeeded his father in business, and Campbell, a successful medical practitioner.  A third sister was united in matrimony to the Rev. Clarke Huston Irwin, M.A., D.D., secretary of the Religious Tract Society.  A fourth sister, E. R. Adams, resides in Belfast.
   William Adams, son of Thomas Adams, and grandson of William Adams and Elizabeth Hill, resided in Portglenone, and was an elder in Third Portglenone Presbyterian Church.  His daughter, Annie Adams, who occupies the old mansion, maintains the high traditions of her family in the educational and musical spheres.
   The Rev. Dr. Park, one-time Moderator of the General Assembly, and many others, including solicitors, barristers, doctors, and men of business, could also claim descend from the Rev. John Hill.
   Other family associations may be traces through the Hills mentioned.  John Hill, of Hillmount, married Anne Barry, of Carrickfergus.  Anne Barry's mother was Anne Coleman, a daughter of Dr. John Coleman, of Carrickfergus.  Elizabeth Coleman, sister of Mrs. Barry, wed first Dr. Dobbin, of Belfast, and secondly Henry Ellis, barrister-at-law, Innisrush.  Mrs. Ellis was a grand-aunt to Elizabeth Hill, who married William Adams, Portglenone.  After the death of Henry Ellis, Mrs. Ellis resided for a time in WIlliam Adams's house, where she died.  Her letters, which are still preserved, show that she was quite a personality.
   The youngest child of John Hill married her cousin, George Hill, of Larne.  One of her daughters became the wife of a member of the McNeill family in Larne, related to the Portglenone McNeills.  A son and daughter born of this union wed a Portglenone sister and brother respectively.  The Larne McNeills, connected with the Hills of Hillmount, followed the legal profession.  A solicitor of their name consulted by the Grand Jurors of Cashel resided in a beautiful cottage at Glenone, the side of which is now occupied by James Heenan's residence.  He was half-brother to Dr. McNeill, Portglenone.


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Gilby, I am glad that were able to get your hands on a copy of The Shining Bann.  I hope that at least a few pages of it will prove useful.

Yes, I was already aware of George Macaulay's daughters, Mary Hill, and the McNeill family being documented in the 1851 census.  But still, many thanks for going to the trouble of making a post for me.  With best wishes, Paul.

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James Moore of Ballydivity was married to Margaret Gilliland, my gggggggg aunt.  I've just found an extract of his will on Ancestry dated 1778-1783.  It mentions his sister Ann, widow of the Rev John Hill of Drumna, and her three sons John, Charles and James, also her daughters Mary Given wife of Wm. Givern, and Ann Edmiston wife of Hugh Edmiston.

Nephews Charles and James Hill were of Drumna (Drumra/Drumraw) while nephew John Hill was of Hillmount.  (This fits with the Deputy Court Cheque Book of 1776.)

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Ah well here is what is on the "Registry of Deeds, Dublin : Abstracts of wills" available on Ancestry.  This is a copy of a copy of the will/codicils.  As I mentioned I hope to be able to see the original at PRONI someday.  The square brackets are not mine  - they're on the abstract on Ancestry.


682 MOORE, JAMES, Ballydivity, Co. Antrim

24 Dec. 1778. Full 6 pp. 11 Nov. 1783.

My only son James Moore.  My sister Ann Hill, widow of Rev. John Hill late of Drumna, her three sons, John, Charles and James, her daughters Mary Given wife of Wm. Givern, and Ann Edmiston wife of Hugh Edmiston.  My nephew John Walker, his brothers James, Charles and Robert Walker, their sisters Mary Kithcart wife to Alexr. Kithcart, Sarah Hill wife to John Hill.  My two nephews James and Robert Walker both of Glenleary, Do. Londonderry, farmers.  My nephew Chas. Walker of Glenleary, Co. Londonderry, farmer.  My nephew John Walker, Ballydivity, Barony Dunluce, Co. Antrim, gent.  My son-in-law Jno. Stewart, Ballintoy, his only son James Stewart, my grandson (a minor).  My grandson James Stewart only son of John Stewart of Ballintoy, Co. Antrim, Esq., if he should become seized of my real estate shall take and assume the surname of Moore.  My nephew Chas. Hill, Drumna, Co. Antrim, linen draper, my nephew James Hill of same, linen draper.  Margaret Poak otherwise Hamill wife of Wm. Hamill.  Robt. Ogilby, Newtownlimavaddy, Co. Londonderry, Esq., M.D.  John Hill, Hill[s.]mount, Barony Toomb, Co. Antrim (my nephew), linen draper and Wm. Owens, Holestone, Co. Antrim, watchmaker, trustees.  My son-in-law John Stewart, Ballintoy, Esq., Rev. William Lynd, Moyargit, Gospel minister, and John Huey, Ballyalaght, gent., all in the Barony Cary, Co. Antrim, exors.  Legacies to poor of parishes of Derrykeighan, and Billy.

The lands of North Ballydivity, Cluntice and Islandahoo which I hold from Earl of Antrim; lands of South Ballydivity, Carnfeog[ne] which I hold under the heirs of James Stewart, Esq., deceased, Upper Ballynaris and Ballyness leased from Earl of Antrim, all in Barony Dunluce, Co. Antrim.  Frosses, Barony Kilconway, Co. Antrim held from Earl of Antrim, North Torcrum (ditto) in Grange of Killegan, Co. Antrim, Lissaniske, Barony Dunluce, Duncarbit, Drumchullen and Cullyveely (ditto) Barony Cary, all in Co. Antrim.  Upper and Lower Moyargits, held from heirs of Hugh Boyd, Ballycastle, Co. Antrim, deceased.  Upper Ballinlea, Barony Carey,Co. Antirm held from Earl of Antrim, Lisbel[la]nagroagh More, Barony Carey, Cloughhorr, Barony Dunluce both Co. Antrim (ditto).  Ballymacklevennon [Co. Londonderry] in liberties of Coleraine which I hold from Mrs. Jennet Boyd, widow, deceased.

Witnesses: Wm. Martin, Ballynaris, parish Billy, Co. Antrim, farmer, James Martin, Ballynarish, Presbyterian teacher, commonly called a Probationer, John Martin, Ballynarish, bachelor.

Memorial witnessed by: Said Wm. Martin, James Martin and John Martin.

355, 170, 238479                John Hill (seal)


683   MOORE, JAMES, Ballydivity, Co. Antrim.

Codicil 10 Feb. 1781.  Full 1?b p. 11 Nov. 1783.

In former Will appointed as exors. John Stewart Ballintoy, Co. Antrim, Esq., Rev. Wm. Lynd, Moyarget, Co. Antrim, preacher and John Huey, Ballyalaught, Co. Antrim, farmer.  Revokes exorship of said Wm. Lynd and John Huey and appoints as exors. said John Stewart, Ballintoy, Richard Lloyd, Coleraine, Co. Londonderry, Esq., and Jackson Wray, Dowey, Co. Antrim, gent.

To my only son James Moore the younger all real and personal estate.  Debt due by Randal Wm. Earl of Antrim who executed a mortgage deed to me, the rents etc. of lands which I hold under his Lordship in Baronies of Dunluce, Cary and Kilconway, Co. Antrim being a collateral security.

Witesses: William Martin, Ballynaris, parish of Billy, Barony Dunluce, Co. Antrim, farmer, John Martin, Ballynarish aforesaid, bachelor, James Martin, Ballynarish aforesaid, Presbyterian preacher commonly called a Probationer.

Memorial witnesses by: William Martin, John Martin, James Martin.

356, 89, 238480                         John Hill (seal) a trustee in said will


684   MOORE, JAMES, of Ballydivity, Co. Antrim.

Postscript.  6 March 1781.  Full ?a p. 11 Nov. 1783.

To my nephew John Walker the feather bed and bedclothes, bedstead and hangings that are now all upon the bed in the Blue Room on which he now sleeps, and to possess the said Blue Room for life provided he continues unmarried.

Witnesses: John Hood, parish of Deryaghy, Barony of Massereene, Co. Antrim, Ann Hill in Drumra in parish of Attoghel [? Drumramer, parish Ahoghill], Barony Toom, Co. Antrim, spinster, James Martin, Ballynarish, parish Billy, Barony Dunluce, Co. Antrim, Presbyterian teacher commonly called Probationer.

Memorial witnessed by: James Martin, John Hood.  

356, 90, 238481                               John Hill (seal)


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Copy will of Mrs Anna Hill (n?ee Barry) of Carrickfergus = PRONI D300/1/5/90

Extracted from the Registry of the Consistorial Court of Down and Connor, 24th February 1832

In the name of God Amen I Anna Hill otherwise Barry of the Town and County of Carrickergus Widow being of sound and disposing mind, memory and understanding do make and publish this my last will and testament in manner + form following that is to say I leave devise and bequeath unto John Robinson of Burleigh Hill Esqr, The Rev John Paul of Carrickfergus aforesd. and to their heirs all and singular the farms or parcels of land ? upon trust ?

Daughter Mary Hill otherwise Martin widow of George Hill late of Larne [remarried?]

George Hill McNeill son of Wm McNeill, Larne

Daughter Elizabeth Adams otherwise Hill wife of Wm Adams of Portglenone

James Hill Adams, son of the said Elizabeth Adams
Thomas, brother of the said James Hill Adams

?My daughter Jane Adams of Portglenone ? free from the control and interference of her said husband?

[different daughter to Elizabeth?]

John Adams, son of the said James Adams

Grandson John Martin of the City of Dublin
Barry Martin son of the said John Martin

Granddaughter Ann Smyth otherwise Martin, wife of John Smyth of Carrickfergus
Barry Martin Smyth son of the said Ann Smyth
James Hill Smyth son of the said Ann Smyth

John Adams son of daughter Jane Adams

Executors:
Alexr Johns Esq, Carrickfergus
Samuel Nelson, Carrickfergus

Dated 25th August 1830

Signed with a seal and her mark [surprising that she was illiterate?]

Witnesses:
John McLowan M.P.
John Legg Junr
David Legg

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Copy will of George Hill, Larne = PRONI D300.1.5.79

In the name of God amen I George Hill of Larne in the County of Antrim Do make this my last will and testament in manner following hereby revoking all former wills by me at any time heretofore made?.

Lists a lot of property in Larne etc?

?for the life of Dr Philip Fletcher which are held under me by 'Malcolm 'McNeill, and I have also purchased or agreed for the purchase of certain lands in Drains afsd. from the Trustees of the will of the late Richard Lorimer.  'And Whereas by the marriage settlement entered into on my marriage with Mary Hill my present wife a certain portion of the property of 'Mrs' Anne Hill the 'Mother of my said wife was settled or covenanted to be settled to the use of the said marriage as therin mentioned including the lands of Drumcraw in said county the pos''son of which the said 'Anne Hill has hereto given?

Appoints his nephew Edward Hill of Bessbank, Co Antrim, and William Kirk Martin (Doctor of medicine) of Woodburn in the County of the town of Carrickfergus as his executors.

Daughters Jane, Anne and Mary

?paid unto my sister Mrs Sarah Anderson the sum of ?10 a year during her natural life and from and after the decease of my said sister shall continue the payment of the said annuity of ?10 a year unto and amongst her three daughters Jane Anderson, Margaret Anderson and Sarah Anne McCubbin otherwise Anderson during their joint lives?

Brother Arthur Hill (also ?10/year)

Daughter Jane widow of the late George Macaulay
Grandson Alexander Macauley
Granddaughters Mary Macaulay, Georgina Macaulay and Anne Jane Macaulay

I do further will and declare that if my Grandson Alexander Mcaulay is desirous to have the house and grounds of Hillmount he shall be entitled to have the same as lately in the tenure of Captain Smyth with right of way to the shore by the present road through McCullions field?

Daughter Anne wife of William Walsh McNeill
Grandson George Hill McNeill
Granddaughter Catherine McNeill

Daughter Mary wife of Arbuthnot Emerson

Niece Jane Anderson (?50 and residue after all expenses)

... In trust in the first place to set apart the sum of ?900 late Irish Currency for payment of a certain charge or lieu on my said lands of Ballywilliam and Sallagh payable to Miss Julia Richardson and for payt. of the interest thereof until such time as the said charge or lieu can be paid?

Wife Mary Hill appointed executrix (in addition to Edward Hill and William Kirk Martin already mentioned)

Dated 14th May 1828

Witnesses:
George Birnie, Surgeon, Royal Navy
A. R. Burke
Joshua Thomas Hawkins

Testator died 11th June 1828

Probate granted to Mary Hill Widow the 18th October 1828

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Do we know if Edward Hill was a nephew on George Hill's side, or a nephew on his wife Mary Hill's side?

There are trees online which have Edward Hill of Bessbank being the son of Trevor Hill.  Is this then the Trevor Hill of Larne who married Theodora Brice?

I see the obituary of Theodora Hill (n?ee Brice) refers to her "the late Trevor Hill, Esq., of Bess Brook".  I wonder if Bess Brook is the same as Bessbank.

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Belfast Commercial Chronicle, 5th Sep 1807:
BESSBANK
To be sold by auction, at the Exchange Coffee-Room, on FRIDAY the 25th September nect,
THE LEASE (of which 44 years will be unexpired the first of November next) of that much admired place, on the Shore, near White Abbey, containing 2A. 2R. 13P. of a Bank finely planted, with an Orchard of 119 Apple Trees in full bearing, and an elegant Brick House thereon in the Cottage style, built by the late JAMES LENDRICK, Esq. deceased, highly finished, with Brass Locks, Grates, and Marble Chimney Pieces, and in the improvement of which several Hundred Pounds have been laid out in the last two years, in Planting, and Erecting a House near the Sea, fitted for a Hot Bath, with Iron Boiler and Metal Stoves.
The Lease includes alse two Grazing Fields of 5A. 2R. 23P. contiguous thereto, with a good Stone and Lime House for the accommodation of a Gardener, or Porter's Lodge.
Possession to be given on or before the first of November.
August, 1807.


Royal Belfast Academical Institution ?   1821 Entries
Edward Hill ? Trevor Hill, Esq., Bessbank, Carrickfergus Road


Belfast Commercial Chronicle, 4th May 1825
RBAI Premiums awarded ?   Mathematics:
Senior Division ? Edward Hill, Bessbank, Belfast


Belfast Commercial Chronicle, 26th Jun 1826
Mr. EDWARD HILL, of Bessbank, late a pupil of the Belfast Institution, obtained a science premium at the examinations just closed in Trinity College, Dublin.


Alumni Dublinenses (Trinity College Dublin):
HILL, EDWARD THOMAS MULLINS,
Pen. (Mr Hincks), Jan. 2, 1826, aged 16; s. of Trevor, e Scribus in ?de Officii Epistolaris; b. Antrim.  B.A. Vern. 1831.


His middle names confirms, I think, that his father was the Trevor Hill married to Theodora Brice (granddaughter of Lord Ventry ?   Thomas Mullins).  Does anyone know what "e Scribus in ?de Officii Epistolaris" means?


Weekly Vindicator, 22nd Apr 1848:
DIED
At 6, Adelaide Place, on the 13th inst., Jane, daughter of the late Trevor Hill, Esq., of Bessbank.


Belfast Newsletter, 14th Oct 1853:
August 28, at New Orleans, of yellow fever, Edward Thomas Mullins Hill, Esq., eldest son of the late Trevor Hill, Esq., of Bessbrook, aged forty-six years.

Belfast Newsletter, 25th Sep 1877:
HILL ?   September 24, at 1, Dawson Street, Antrim Road, Belfast, Emily, relict of the late Edward T De Maulins Hill, Esq., formerly of Bessbank, County Antrim, and daughter of the late George A. Kirwan, Esq., of Claremont, County Galway, aged 64 years.  Her remains will be removed from the above address for interment in the New Burying0ground, Clifton Street, on Thursday morning, the 27th inst., at nine o'clock.  Friends will please accept this intimation.

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Quote from: Gilby on Sunday 08 January 17 12:02 GMT (UK)
Belfast Newsletter, 25th Sep 1877:[/b]
HILL ?   September 24, at 1, Dawson Street, Antrim Road, Belfast, Emily, relict of the late Edward T De Maulins Hill, Esq., formerly of Bessbank, County Antrim, and daughter of the late George A. Kirwan, Esq., of Claremont, County Galway, aged 64 years.  Her remains will be removed from the above address for interment in the New Burying0ground, Clifton Street, on Thursday morning, the 27th inst., at nine o'clock.  Friends will please accept this intimation.

Clifton St. Burying Ground-
September 24 Emily Hill (Asthma and Consumption) Aged 64 Teacher Dawson Street Native of Galway 15, Grave Number 36 & 37
http://www.cliftonstreetcemetery.com/

Any connection? Trevor Hill, son of Trevor, married 1858 Sarah Anne Penny-
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Ah thanks for the Clifton Street link Aghadowey ?   I'd forgotten about it.  Were you able to find a headstone to go along with the register?  I'm not sure I completely understand the grave number reference.

I shall look into this Trevor Hill who married Sarah Anne Penny.  Quite likely connected, but I haven't found proof just yet.

This Trevor was also a son of a Trevor Hill:

Belfast Morning News, 25th Aug 1869  
August 19, in the Presbyterian Meeting-house, Raloo, by the Rev. W. J. Smyth, Trevor Hill, of Eden, Carrickfergus, to Anne Jane Hogset, of Kilroot.

Church record says he was a bachelor, so probably not the same Trevor that married Sarah Anne Penny.


Bessbank aka Bessbrook aka Whiteabbey House??

Belfast Newsletter, 4th Jan 1842
On the 27th ult., at Albert-place, in the 28th year of her age, Theodora, eldest daughter of Trevor Hill, Esq. late of Whiteabbey-house, deeply regretted by all who knew her.

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This Trevor was also a son of a Trevor Hill:
Belfast Morning News, 25th Aug 1869  
August 19, in the Presbyterian Meeting-house, Raloo, by the Rev. W. J. Smyth, Trevor Hill, of Eden, Carrickfergus, to Anne Jane Hogset, of Kilroot.

The Will of Trevor Hill late of the North-east Division Carrickfergus Farmer deceased who died 22 December 1872 at same place was proved at Belfast by the oaths of William Hogset of Kilroot (Carrickfergus) County Antrim Farmer and Robert Hill of Eden (Carrickfergus) Ship Carpenter the Executors. Wiil mentions wife Ann Jeane Hill, 'Robert Hills son Trevor' so perhaps this Trevor and Anne Jane didn't have any family?

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Ah thanks for the Clifton Street link Aghadowey ?   I'd forgotten about it.  Were you able to find a headstone to go along with the register?  I'm not sure I completely understand the grave number reference.
The headstone inscriptions are in the 2 files on the same page as link to register.

Bessbank aka Bessbrook aka Whiteabbey House??
Belfast Newsletter, 4th Jan 1842
On the 27th ult., at Albert-place, in the 28th year of her age, Theodora, eldest daughter of Trevor Hill, Esq. late of Whiteabbey-house, deeply regretted by all who knew her.
1861- Whiteabbey House- William Cowan
Probably this man- Cowan, William & Co., flax spinners, 3 York Lane. * Whiteabbey.
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1861a2f.htm
The Will of William Cowan late of Whiteabbey in the County of Antrim Merchant deceased who died 19 June 1861 at same place was proved at Belfast by the oath of John Lowry of Donegal-place Belfast in said County Merchant one of the Executors.

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Ah thanks for the Clifton Street link Aghadowey ?   I'd forgotten about it.  Were you able to find a headstone to go along with the register?  I'm not sure I completely understand the grave number reference.
The headstone inscriptions are in the 2 files on the same page as link to register.

Well assuming the grave reference is Platform 15, Graves 36-37, then the headstone appears to be for a Britten family which is a bit confusing. 
Hill, Elizabeth "Betsy" (I43150)
 
754 (Research):https://www2.calmview.co.uk/HUBCAT/CalmView/Overview.aspx Dodds, Robert (I31322)
 
755 (Research):https://www2.calmview.co.uk/HUBCAT/CalmView/Overview.aspx Dods, Alexander (I49977)
 
756 (Research):husband may be Hawton Poole, Sarah (I25048)
 
757 (Research):I am descended from Janet Lyle and John Miller's son David Miller. His daughter, Agnes, is my great-grandmother. I don't know anything about the Main family other than what you know.

I visited Janet Lyle's place of birth last year. Ironmacannie Mill is exactly that, a grain mill with a miller's cottage at the side, in Balmaclellan Parish, Kirkudbright, Scotland. Her father was obviously the miller on the estate. I don't know where he came from, but I do know Janet's mother, Margaret Halliday, was a local girl.

Many Scots migrated to the US, Canada, and Australia in the early 1800s due to the enclosure acts in Britain. Our relatives migrated to Dalhousie Township in Lanark County, Ontario where many Scots immigrated in 1821.

John and Janet moved in 1836 to Lot 4, Concession 3, Sarnia Township, Lambton County, Ontario in 1836. John bought 50 acres from the local landowner Malcolm Cameron. He was the first to clear the land of the forest and later built a log house and stable on the plot. In 1855, they moved again when he bought 100 acres at Lot 4, Concession 4, Sarnia Township. Again, he had to clear the land of the virgin forest (but now he was 52 years old).

John died of heart disease in 1884. I don't know where he was buried. I know where Janet is buried, though. She is buried in the Irwin Cemetery. It is a tiny, country cemetery near the corner of Confederation Road and Brigden Sideroad in Sarnia. Her headstone spells her name as Jenet.

Sincerely,
Living van Hoogenhuize 
Lyle, Janet (I6452)
 
758 (Research):I can find no trace of her - she may have died in childhood. Miller, Margret (I4053)
 
759 (Research):I have a note asking if this could be a son of John Miller 1789. Miller, John (I69945)
 
760 (Research):I originally had his wife as Ann Weir Adams, Ann (I16227)
 
761 (Research):I suspect there is a parish register missing or missing pages as this is the only Aird that fits for this era and Nancy fits 'neatly' into the family sequence. Aird, Agness "Nancy" (I7502)
 
762 (Research):I think the sources for John Callander are muddled Callander, John (I5840)
 
763 (Research):I think these dates are wrong Chaplin, James William (I5815)
 
764 (Research):Immigrated in 1881 Lanera (I9315)
 
765 (Research):In 1850 Elizabeth Miller is listed on the Non-population Schedules as a farmer. Cooper, Sarah Brown (I6719)
 
766 (Research):In 1868, Alex took over the mill business from his father and after his father's death in 1888 he and his brother-in-law Albert Hagerman formed a partnership which continued until 1895.

Alex Dodds taught Sunday School at the Presbyterian Church in Holstein in the morning and at the Baptist Church in Orchard in the afternoon.

He owned Division 2 of Lot 16, Con. 1 Normanby and in 1917 sold out and moved to Con 12 Egremont where he died in 1918. 
Dodds, Alexander (I1605)
 
767 (Research):In 1900 Ella has just married "Will N." Miller, birth date is Jun1869

In 1930 Ella is widowed, living with Mary J. Ross age 72, listed as a sister and Nina M. Smithers age 55. They are living on Justina Street, father born in England, mother born in New York. 
Ella C. (I7874)
 
768 (Research):In 1918 when Elizabeth Miller McKinnon died he was in North Battleford, SK. Millar, William (I5808)
 
769 (Research):In 1918 when Elizabeth Miller McKinnon died he was in Snow Road. Millar, Thomas (I5803)
 
770 (Research):In 1918 when Elizabeth Miller McKinnon died he was in Snow Road. Millar, James (I5805)
 
771 (Research):In Apr 1831 - Immigrated from Darvil, Ayrshire, Scotland to Camden, Oneida, New York with his parents and six (6) siblings (was it via Canada?) Could this have been John Duncan? son of widow Duncan? Lambie, John Jr. (I12603)
 
772 (Research):In Bathurst, 21 st Dec. Miss Rosa Ann Munro, aged 48 years, died at the horne of her brother Mr. John Munro. The deceased was a cousin of Mrs. Jas. McFarlane and Mr. J.N. Dobbie, of Lanark. Burial on Friday in the Scotch Line cemetery. M Munro, Rose Ann (I49)
 
773 (Research):In Dalhousie Township
Families included Armour, Brownlee, Burns, Cumming, Gibson, Miller.
Many were members of the Lesmahagow Society.

Watson's Corners was earlier known as 'Granny Cumming's Corner'.  C. Bennett, Lanark Society Settlers, Juniper, 1991.

First Dalhousie cemetery established by the St. Andrew's Society in 1829.

East 'station' of Presbyterian Church met in Watson's Corners at the St. Andrews Hall which also held the library.

Arrrived with the Bridgetown Canadian Society 1821?

In Lanark Township
1820 families included Cumming and Gourley
1821 families included Dodds, Gourley, Mather, Miller
A variety of Societies represented.

Lanark Village, St. Andrews Presbyterian Church, 1821, Rev. William Bell. 1822 Dr. Gemmill (clergy and medical doctor) took on the services here. Records with Bell records. Hopetown had an early church. Rosetta, the Preaching Rock, was in early use.
Methodists met in homes. Hopetown had an early church.
St Paul's Anglican established in 1819, Perth Anglican records at Diocesan Archives, Christ Church, Ottawa.
Another Presbyterian church was established at Middleville.
Baptists in Middleville 1834, later in Lanark.
A Methodist church at Boyd's in 1832. Catholics, itinerate priest, private homes until 1903, records, St. John's Church, Perth.
Congregational Church, Lanark Village, Hopetown, Rosetta, Middleville, Hopetown in the 1850s. 
Daniel, Elizabeth (I4931)
 
774 (Research):In order to attend PDCI Gordon and Evelyn boarded at Publows, Gordon at McVeety's until the family moved to Perth. Mather, Gordon Robert (I4338)
 
775 (Research):in Swan Lake MB in 1914 McLaren, Walter (I13605)
 
776 (Research):In the 1851 census
James was listed as born in 1838, William was born in 1840, and Mary was born in 1843 - all in Ireland

In the 1861 census
James is listed as born in 1841, William as born in 1842, and Mary Ann as born in 1844

William is listed as 22 when he married Isabella, thus a birth of 1842 seems reasonable. 
Warrington, James (I4393)
 
777 (Research):In the 1851 census
James was listed as born in 1838, William was born in 1840, and Mary was born in 1843 - all in Ireland

In the 1861 census
James is listed as born in 1841, William as born in 1842, and Mary Ann as born in 1844

William is listed as 22 when he married Isabella, thus a birth of 1842 seems reasonable. 
Warrington, Mary Ann (I29707)
 
778 (Research):In the 1851 census
James was listed as born in 1838, William was born in 1840, and Mary was born in 1843 - all in Ireland

In the 1861 census
James is listed as born in 1841, William as born in 1842, and Mary Ann as born in 1844

William is listed as 22 when he married Isabella, thus a birth of 1842 seems reasonable. 
Warrington, William (I54164)
 
779 (Research):In the 1891 census there is a son living with Isabella, Jessie and Minnie, Herbert Barber, age 15, probably an illegitimate son of eitherJessie or Minnie

Bill Mccullough:
Janet (Jessie) did not marry. In later years when she was in difficult circumstances, her brother Thomas' three sons, Will, Alex andRobert sent her &25 a month, the three boys sharing equally in it. Mrs. North was engaged to assist with Jessie's homecare. 
Barber, Janet "Jessie" (I1643)
 
780 (Research):In the 1891 census there is a son/nephew living with Isabella, Jessie and Minnie, Herbert Barber, age 15, prossibly an illegitimate son of either Jessie or Minnie or a nephew

living at Glen Tay when married 
Barber, Mary Jane "Minnie" (I1646)
 
781 (Research):In Wisconsin, Death Records, his initial in 'N'. Moore, William V. (I34)
 
782 (Research):Index to Settlers 1822
James
N. Sher C2 L14E

Col Marshall 1834
Arrived in 1821
N. Sher C2 L14E
Gilmour here. Family in Ontario. Useless lot.

James
1842 Census
N. Sher C2 L14E
1822, 5 born Scotland 2 born Canada

Census 1851 
Gilmour, James (I6541)
 
783 (Research):Index to the Return of Persons Located by the Military Settling Department dated 24 December 1822
William Miller, Dalhousie C9, L10E, 19 November 1820.
Also:
William Miller, Lanark C1, L15W, 15 July 1821
Andrew Miller,  Dalhousie C1 L15E 15 July 1821
James Miller, Dalhousie C6 L12W 15 July 1821
William Miller, Lanark C7, L12W, 10 February 1821

MS-154 Scottish Immigrant Records 1815-1834
William Miller and wife, Scotland on Cannington, 2 males +12, 2 males -12, 1 female +12, 0 female -12,  16 July 1821, Lanark C1 15 W
Andrew Miller, Bachelor, Scotland on Cannington 16 July 1821, Dalhousie C1 L15E.
James Miller and wife, Scotland on Cannington, 16 July 1821, Dalhousie C6 L12W
William Miller, Scotland, Batchelor, Commerce, June 1820, Located 22 March 1821, Lanark C7 L12W; not sent out by Government, received by authority of Commander, 22 January, 1821.

JR Ernest Miller notes:
James Miller, Bathurst purchased lot 100, Old Burial Grounds, Perth, in 1870.

Birth:      Mar. 17, 1843, Death:      Feb. 27, 1919, Family links:  Spouse:   Lucy Ann Blakeway Miller (1847 - 1937)* *Calculated relationship
Burial: Park Lawn Cemetery, Toronto, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada  Find A Grave Memorial# 113038083
See also Lucy Ann Blakely b. 20 jan 1847 d. 19 apr 1937 Park Lawn Cemetery, Toronto, Grave Memorial# 113038157

Birth:      1843, Ontario, Canada, Death:      Nov. 27, 1894, Camden, Chatham-Kent Municipality
Ontario, Canada
Family links:  Parents:
  Thomas Miller (1818 - 1899)
  Mary Dilley Miller (1819 - 1894)
  Siblings:
  James Miller (1843 - 1894)
  Ellen Miller Ogle (1843 - 1925)*
  Thomas Miller (1856 - 1936)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial: Evergreen Cemetery, Blenheim, Chatham-Kent Municipality, Ontario, Canada, 
Find A Grave Memorial# 48053058 
Miller, James (I86)
 
784 (Research):Info from Genealogy of the Skeirik Family, Kaleel C. Skeirik, Sr., 1995. Skeirik, Rev. Habeeb Albert "John" (I7873)
 
785 (Research):Information on LDS microfilm PG 239 (Dumbarton 1784-1819) contains the following information:
William Miller and Elizabeth Gilmour
Jean, b. 3 Aug 1791 
Miller, Jean (I15)
 
786 (Research):Inscription:
A2C US Air Force US Navy Korea

Note: AGE 68 White Rose lists Owner name CITY OF B'VILLE, O. E. MASON 
Brunson, James "Carlos" Sr. (I7795)
 
787 (Research):Inscription:
Robert L. Barber
New York
TEC 5 US Army
World War II
Aug 16 1902 March 23 1968

ROBERT LATREILLE BARBER was born on 16 Aug 1902 in Auburn, NY (Broderbund
Family Archive #110, Vol. 1, Ed. 5, Social Security Death Index: U.S., Date of
Import: May 4, 1998, Internal Ref. #1.111.5.13104.187;Broderbund Family Archive
#110, Vol. 1, Ed. 5, Social Security Death Index: U.S., Date of Import: May 4, 1998,
I). He died on 19 Mar 1968 in Auburn, New York (Broderbund Family Archive #110,
Vol. 1, Ed. 5, Social Security Death Index: U.S., Date of Import: May 4, 1998,
Internal Ref. #1.111.5.13104.187;Broderbund Family Archive #110, Vol. 1, Ed. 5,
Social Security Death Index: U.S., Date of Import: May 4, 1998, I). He married (1)
BESSIE WALTERS date Unknown in Auburn, New York. She was born on 23 Sep
1908 in Auburn Cayug, New York. She died on 17 Jul 1999 in Auburn, Cayuga,
New York, USA. He married (2) BESSIE WATERS date Unknown in Auburn, New
York. She was born on 23 Sep 1908. 
Barber, Robert LaTreille (I9563)
 
788 (Research):Inscription:
US ARMY AIR FORCES

Note: WORLD WAR II
original created by International Wargraves 
Gibson, John Roger (I7765)
 
789 (Research):Inscription:
US Navy World War II 
Mason, Earl Leonard (I7793)
 
790 (Research):Involved in an accident that injured his head and back around age of 22 or 23. He was admitted to Callan Park Hospital Asylum in September 1907 and in May 1908. He died in this hospital jsut short of his 32 brithday. McLean, Daniel (I3871)
 
791 (Research):Ipswich Reserve, QLD, AU

JR Ernest Miller Notes
Janet (Jessie) Miller and Robert Boyle
Janet Miller would have been 19 years of age when her parents, William Miller and Elizabeth Gilmour, left Dumbarton and sailed from Greenock for their new home in Lanark County.

Robert and Janet lived on Lanark Con 2 L 6. The 1851 census has the following information.
Boyle, Robert; born in Scotland, age 57.
Jannett; his wife, age 48
Catherine; age 28
Mary; age 26
William; age 24
John; age 18
Robert; age 17
David; age 15
Mungo; age 10
John Mason Miller; age 3

Baptismal records of St. Andrew's, Lanark record the following:
William; born 11 feb 1831, son of Robert Boyle and Janet Miller
John Henry; born 7 feb 1834, son of Robert Boyle and Janet Miller

The 1861 census lists their religion as Congregational so perhaps more information is to be found in that church's records if available. Ages given in 1861 are Robert; age 66, Janet, age 59. 
Miller, Janet (I20)
 
792 (Research):Ireland Deaths 1864 - 1958 Transcription

First name(s)     William
Last name     Tully
Age at death     84
Birth year     1786
Registered year     1870
Registered quarter/year     1870
Registration district     Loughrea
Volume     4
Page     290
County     Galway
Country     Ireland
Record set     Irish Deaths 1864 - 1958
Category     Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory     Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from     Ireland
copyright Family Search

Ireland Deaths 1864 - 1958 Transcription

First name(s)     William
Last name     Tully
Age at death     80
Birth year     1790
Registered year     1870
Registered quarter/year     1870
Registration district     Borrisokane
Volume     3
Page     361
County     Tipperary
Country     Ireland
Record set     Irish Deaths 1864 - 1958
Category     Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory     Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from     Ireland
copyright Family Search 
Tully, William (I23531)
 
793 (Research):Is listed as from Mankota at time of marriage.

Lived in Westlock after Russell's death until 1976 and at that time moved to Hillcrest Lodge in Barhead AB. 
Graham, Dora Amelia (I4360)
 
794 (Research):Isabella or Margaret? Pollock, Isobel (I5886)
 
795 (Research):It is interesting that I cannot find birth records for any of this family although baptisms may exist.

I have some thought that Mary Ann who was born 4 months after Isabella marriage to William may have been James' child as registered on her death certificate but was raised by Isabella. James seems to have preferred the military life and may have been involved in travel and training/management with them.

It is interesting that Lucy's death certificate also lists James as her father.

Could it be that James and Isabella had a relationship, Mary Ann was on her way, and William stepped in to marry Isabella because James was elsewhere? Could this be where the dual name James William started to appear in the records? What became of William?

William mysteriously disappears, never to be found. James cannot marry Isabella because William's death is not known or recorded. The census taker in 1871 is confused and enters both names?

Where a mother's name is recorded on most of the children's death certificates, some do not mention a father.

I think the true story will never be known, lost in family/community lore, maybe whispered about but never formally acknowledged. 
Warrington, John Ashby (I4394)
 
796 (Research):It is interesting that I cannot find birth records for any of this family although baptisms may exist.

I have some thought that Mary Ann who was born 4 months after Isabella marriage to William may have been James' child as registered on her death certificate but was raised by Isabella. James seems to have preferred the military life and may have been involved in travel and training/management with them.

It is interesting that Lucy's death certificate also lists James as her father.

Could it be that James and Isabella had a relationship, Mary Ann was on her way, and William stepped in to marry Isabella because James was elsewhere? Could this be where the dual name James William started to appear in the records? What became of William?

William mysteriously disappears, never to be found. James cannot marry Isabella because William's death is not known or recorded. The census taker in 1871 is confused and enters both names?

Where a mother's name is recorded on most of the children's death certificates, some do not mention a father.

I think the true story will never be known, lost in family/community lore, maybe whispered about but never formally acknowledged. 
Warrington, Lucy Adeline (I22547)
 
797 (Research):It is interesting that I cannot find birth records for any of this family although baptisms may exist.

I have some thought that Mary Ann who was born 4 months after Isabella marriage to William may have been James' child as registered on her death certificate but was raised by Isabella. James seems to have preferred the military life and may have been involved in travel and training/management with them.

It is interesting that Lucy's death certificate also lists James as her father.

Could it be that James and Isabella had a relationship, Mary Ann was on her way, and William stepped in to marry Isabella because James was elsewhere? Could this be where the dual name James William started to appear in the records? What became of William?

William mysteriously disappears, never to be found. James cannot marry Isabella because William's death is not known or recorded. The census taker in 1871 is confused and enters both names?

Where a mother's name is recorded on most of the children's death certificates, some do not mention a father.

I think the true story will never be known, lost in family/community lore, maybe whispered about but never formally acknowledged. 
Warrington, Mary Ann (I23954)
 
798 (Research):It is interesting that I cannot find birth records for any of this family although baptisms may exist.

I have some thought that Mary Ann who was born 4 months after Isabella marriage to William may have been James' child as registered on her death certificate but was raised by Isabella. James seems to have preferred the military life and may have been involved in travel and training/management with them.

It is interesting that Lucy's death certificate also lists James as her father.

Could it be that James and Isabella had a relationship, Mary Ann was on her way, and William stepped in to marry Isabella because James was elsewhere? Could this be where the dual name James William started to appear in the records? What became of William?

William mysteriously disappears, never to be found. James cannot marry Isabella because William's death is not known or recorded. The census taker in 1871 is confused and enters both names?

Where a mother's name is recorded on most of the children's death certificates, some do not mention a father.

I think the true story will never be known, lost in family/community lore, maybe whispered about but never formally acknowledged. 
Warrington, Christina "Tena" (I26239)
 
799 (Research):It is interesting that I cannot find birth records for any of this family although baptisms may exist.

I have some thought that Mary Ann who was born 4 months after Isabella marriage to William may have been James' child as registered on her death certificate but was raised by Isabella. James seems to have preferred the military life and may have been involved in travel and training/management with them.

It is interesting that Lucy's death certificate also lists James as her father.

Could it be that James and Isabella had a relationship, Mary Ann was on her way, and William stepped in to marry Isabella because James was elsewhere? Could this be where the dual name James William started to appear in the records? What became of William?

William mysteriously disappears, never to be found. James cannot marry Isabella because William's death is not known or recorded. The census taker in 1871 is confused and enters both names?

Where a mother's name is recorded on most of the children's death certificates, some do not mention a father.

I think the true story will never be known, lost in family/community lore, maybe whispered about but never formally acknowledged. 
Warrington, Elizabeth Jane "Eliza" (I29702)
 
800 (Research):James Boyle Ann McIntyre
1 Genealogy - Charles & Ted

Diane Duncan
Feb 19, 2018, 3:25 PM
to Charles

Hi,
I've been working quite intensely, trying to finalize some info on the Queensland Boyle Miller connection over the past week. I'm really struggling with the Alfred James Boyle McIntyre situation.
Did you ever find evidence that James and Ann married? Why can I not find any evidence of Ann's death other than a photo of her stone (where is it located?)

Is there a story that has been buried???

Also do you know anything of Dursella Boyle, raised by Robert Hendry and Janet Miller family. The story I am hearing is that she was the child of one of the Boyle men, and it has been suggested Robert Hendry? I have her descendants but trying to untangle the family 'story'.
Diane
--

Charles McFadden
Feb 19, 2018, 5:55 PM
to me

Hi Diane
1850 United States Census
Name Ann McIntyre
Age 11
Birth Year abt 1839
Birthplace Scotland
Home in 1850 Elmira, Chemung, New York, USA
Gender Female
Family Number 715
Household Members
Name  Age
Alexander McIntyre 35
Janette McIntyre 36
Margaret McIntyre 14
Ann McIntyre 11
Jane McIntyre 9
Isabel McIntyre 7
Elizabeth McIntyre 4

Ann McIntyre is buried at Hopetown with her parents Sandy McIntyre and Jane Yuill whose sister in  law was Kitty McNab the illegitimate daughter of the 17th Laird of McNab ?

McNab Township Renfrew County. Jane Yuill's brother died fighting in the War of the Rebellion in the United States and Kitty ( Catherine ) returned to Canada. Kitty's mother was the Laird's housekeeper Catherine Fisher.

Ann McIntyre dies in 1858 at age 19 giving birth to Alfred James Boyle.. This is as you know well before mandatory government registration for births, deaths, marriages begins in

1869 and just because it became mandatory in 1869 does not mean that people complied ?  in fact large numbers did not ?  evidence what we have found in the Huron Tract in that regards for example.

1861 Census of Canada
Name Alfred Boyle
Gender Male
Age 3
Birth Year 1858
Birthplace Canada West
Home in 1861 Lanark, Lanark, Canada West
Religion Church of Scotland
Film Number C-1042-1043
Page number 12
Household Members
Name Age
Alfred Boyle 3

As you can see here is Alfred James Boyle son of Ann McIntyre and James Boyle in the family household with Sandy McIntyre and Jane Yuill and Ann McIntyre's younger siblings as Ann was the 2nd oldest. Alfred was raised with Ann's younger siblings.
Here is Alfred again in 1871 same drill

Name Alfred Mc Intyre
Gender Male
Age 12
Birth Year abt 1859
Birth Place Ontario
Religion Church Of Scotland
Origin Scottish
Province Ontario
District Lanark North
District Number 80
Division 01
Subdistrict Lanark
Subdistrict Number e
Household Members

Name   Age
Andrew Campbell 33
Martha Campbell 30
Archibald Campbell 10
Ann G Campbell 8
Marion Campbell 2
Alexander Mc Intyre 53
Jane Mc Intyre 53
William Mc Intyre 25
Alexander Mc Intyre 21
Isabella Mc Intyre 18
David Mc Intyre 16
Alfred Mc Intyre 12
John Mc Intyre 10

Here is Alfred James Boyle again in 1881 same drill

Name Alfred McIntyre
Gender Male
Age 21
Birth Year 1860
Birthplace Ontario
Religion Canada Presbyterian Church
Nationality Scotch
Occupation Labourer
Province Ontario
District Number 112
District Lanark North
Sub-District Number D
Subdistrict Lanark
Division 1
Household Members
Name   Age
Alex McIntyre 56
William McIntyre 32
Bella McIntyre 28
Alfred McIntyre 21
John McIntyre 20
Jane McIntyre 54

Ann McIntyre died in childbirth at age 19 giving birth to Alfred. Her parents Sandy and Jane decided to raise Alfred and James Boyle got a shot at a new life in such tragic circumstances and he went to Colony of Australia and eventually in time had another family with Margaret Sophia Wilson.

I'm sure James and Ann would have married but I have not looked for a marriage record which would have to be in a parish register as I never felt a need to given my Lawson knowledge of the events. Though tragic it is actually a not right term but kind of nice story/solution as Alfred was raised with his grandparents in a loving environment and as a sibling to his Uncles and Aunts and James Boyle got shot at a new life as things would have been tough for him.

Many of James Boyle's siblings got married in the Congregational Church in Middleville which is today an artist studio and it is across the road from my 3 great Uncle Sandy's place and beside Affleck and McLachlan House. Place to look if you want to try to find a marriage record may be in the congregational registers if they could be found ?  I have never run across them and Robert Somerville son of John Somerville Senior and Margaret Gray was a prime mover in the Middleville congregational church. Some of the records for the Middleville congregational church are misfiled/lost and are actually at McMaster from what Robert Urquharts 4 great granddaughter mentioned to me.

Name Alfred Boyle Macintyre
Gender Male
Marriage Date 15 Oct 1890
Marriage Place Louise, Manitoba, Canada
Spouse Marion Gemmel Lawson
URL http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php

Household Members
Name   Age
Alfred Boyle Macintyre
Marion Gemmel Lawson

Marion's father was a first cousin of my 2 great grandmother.

1921 Census of Canada
Name: Alfred McIntyre
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 64
Birth Year: abt 1857
Birth Place: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father Birth Place: Scotland
Mother Birth Place: Scotland
Year of Immigration: 1920
Racial or Tribal Origin: Scotch (Scotish)
Province or Territory: Saskatchewan
District: Maple Creek
District Number: 220
Sub-District Number: 55
City, Town or Village: Pitville
Section Number: 6
Township Number: 17
Range Number: 19
Meridian Number: W3
Municipality: Pitville
Occupation: Farmer
Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members:
Name   Age
Alfred McIntyre 64
Howard McIntyre 21
Geo Davis  30
Evan Elmer Davis 20

Alfred is actually not widowed. Marion left him, they split up and she married someone else and later died in 1967.

This may help

Sandy's farm was on the 2nd Concession of Lanark Township and Hopetown was their nearest village. They raised a large family of 4 sons and 3 daughters, besides raising Alfred Boyle, their grandchild, when his mother Ann died in childbirth. Sandy's wife was Jane Yuill, a daughter of the original William Yuill and Jennie Mitchell of White Lake. After his wife died it is believed he made his home at his son William's farm on the Lanark road near Middleville. The road to the farmstead wound through a Maple bush which provided maple syrup and maple sugar in springtime. At the rear of the farm was Baxters Lake where fish could be caught when needed. It was my pleasure to know the families of William, David and Alexander. It should be noted that 3 sons volunteered in the first war, one was killed and another incapacitated for life. The McIntyre Story 1837-1975 written by H.S. McIntyre born 1888.

Source: The McIntrye Story 1837 - 1975 written by H.S. McIntyre (1888 - )

As regards to Drusilla Boyle in Ausralia

First one I have is Caroline Drusillia Boyle 11 Sept 1879 Queensland died Boonah Queensland 15 Mar 1973 maried William Jackson 1876 ?  1947. She is daughter of Mungo Alexander Boyle amd granddaughter of Janet Jessie Miller.

One you are after is Drusilla Boyle 18 Oct 1866 Lanark Township died 1950 Ipwich Queensland married James Daniel Smith 1860 ?  1928.

Drusillia's mother is Elizabeth McManagle and she is the sister of Margaret McManagle who is Mrs. John Hendry Boyle son of Janet Jessie Miller.

John Hendry Boyle married Margaret McManagle in 1864 at the Congregational Church in Middleville ?  the artists studio.

Name Margaret McManagh
Age 22
Birth Year abt 1842
Birth Place Kitley
Residence Lanark Township
Marriage Date 13 May 1864
Marriage Place Lanark, Ontario, Canada
Father Anthony McManagh
Mother Elizabeth James
Spouse John Henry Boyle

Robert Hendry Boyle marries Elizabeth Skiffington at the Congregational Church in Middleville 26 Sept 1865 so the artists studio

Name Robert Henry Boyle
Age 28
Birth Year abt 1837
Birth Place Lanark, Ontario
Residence Lanark Township
Marriage Date 26 Sep 1865
Marriage Place Lanark, Ontario, Canada
Father  Robert Henry Booyle
Mother Janet Miller
Spouse Elizabeth Skiffington
Household Members
Name   Age
Robert Henry Boyle
Janet Miller
Robert Henry Booyle
Elizabeth Skiffington
Margaret Jones
Terrance Skiffington

SO

Robert Hendry Boyle was boinking his sister in law's sister Elizabeth McManagle in January 1866 so 4 months after he married Elizabeth Skiffington who was knocked up.

Robert Hendry Boyle and Elizabeth Skiffington's first child is born in 1865 in Lanark Township ???.

SO

He had Elizabeth Skiffington pregnant well before they got married and she would have been pregnant when he was cavorting with Elizabeth McManagle.

Elizabeth and Margaret McManagles mother was Elizabeth James daughter of the Lanark Society Settler Robert James Brig Commerce 1820.

Elizabeth and Margaret McManagle were granddaughters of John McManagle the Society Settler who came out on the Brock in 1820 with James Blair, James Baird John Lawson Robert Urquhart et als

Probably not what you want to hear and is no doubt why you are having difficulty with it as well Robert Hendry Boyle has the 2 babes on the go at the same time so to say.

If Don can stop laughing let me know if that helps or not ?

I've been working on my Iron Founders of York on my father side.

Chuck

***************

From: Diane Duncan [mailto:dianeduncan01@gmail.com]
Sent: February-19-18 5:25 PM
To: Charles McFadden
Subject: James Boyle Ann McIntyre

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Diane Duncan
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Feb 20, 2018, 9:46 AM
to Charles

Just entered the 1850 census and where are Willim and Alexander Clyde?
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Diane Duncan
Feb 20, 2018, 12:44 PM
to Charles

Do you have info for lawrence Michael Boyle, son of Robert Henry and Eliz Skiffington. Is he the pregnancy child? 
McIntyre, Ann Jane (I9933)
 

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